Alternativa mail serveru
Hostovani smo kod loklanog provajdera i web hosting je ok za sada bez problema. Međutim problem je kod slanja mailova. Kada se izvrši narudžba (potvrda o porudžbini) sigurno 60 - 70% ljudi ne dobije mailove o ostvarenoj kupovini, kao i kada se šalje mass mail o novim proizvodima na sajtu, mnogo mailova sa sezama, yahoo-a, neobeeja, verata se vrate.
Pitanje glasi da li ima neka alternativa za smtp server ili moramo da radimo premeštanje hostinga na drugog provajdera? |
Pa, iz kog razloga se vracaju ti mailovi, sta "kaze" mailer-daemon?
Je l' se "gube" mailovi sa informacijama o kupovini, ili zavrsavaju u spam/junk? |
Alternativa postoji uvijek, mozes da iznajmis negdje samo mail server i sa odredjenom autorizacijom koristis njega za slanje. Probaj prvo ustanoviti sta je problem i pokusati ga rijesiti sa aktuelnim provajderom pa onda trazi dalje rjesenje.
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Sad sam poslao novo obaveštenje korisnicima, pa ću da kopiram šta mi kaže mail delivery kada se vrati.
@filmil Ne spamujem, samo šaljem mailove ljudima koju su se prijavili na to. Evo ga: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: Connection timed out: retry timeout exceeded SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data: host gi.bitsyu.net [217.24.17.19]: 550 5.7.1 Message content rejected SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<pstevan@myway.com>: host www168.myway.com [207.159.120.168]: 554 5.7.1 <vizioshop@gmail.com>: Sender address rejected: Access denied SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM:<vizioshop@gmail.com>: host smtp.infosky.net [195.250.98.4]: 553 5.3.0 Mail from mail.panonnet.net refused, forged/mis-configured/bad-DNS/dialups/non-relayed - please read http://www.infosky.net/en/dul.html SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM:<vizioshop@gmail.com>: host smtp.infosky.net [195.250.98.4]: 553 5.3.0 Mail from mail.panonnet.net refused, forged/mis-configured/bad-DNS/dialups/non-relayed - please read http://www.infosky.net/en/dul.html SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data: host mail.tehnicom.com [62.193.140.8]: 550 SPAM This message scored 5.5 SPAM points. Congratulations! SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data: host mail.indus3.org [80.74.160.83]: 554 mail server permanently rejected message (#5.3.0) SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [66.249.91.27]: 550 5.1.1 No such user y34si2443278iky SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host server07.citromail.hu [195.70.38.233]: 511 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 ) SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host mail.domainmanager.com [64.40.108.141]: 550 No such mailbox known SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host it1.ptt.yu [212.62.32.7]: 550 5.7.1 <>... server [212.62.32.192] for <> rejected address saying: 550 5.1.1 <>... User unknown SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@msn.com>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>: host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@sezampro.yu>: host mail1.sezampro.yu [77.105.0.23]: 550 <lizarazu> User account expired SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@neobee.net>: host mx1.neobee.net [80.74.160.47]: 550 This account has expired. SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@neobee.net>: host mx1.neobee.net [80.74.160.47]: 550 NEOBEE.NET UNKNOWN USER SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@gmai.com>: host mail.gmai.com [66.166.249.155]: 550 <acikagosu@gmai.com>, Recipient unknown Unrouteable address Unrouteable address Unrouteable address an SRV record indicated no SMTP service Unrouteable address Unrouteable address an SRV record indicated no SMTP service Unrouteable address Unrouteable address Unrouteable address Unrouteable address |
Nisi rekao koliki je broj subscribera. Vecina shared web hostinga limitira moguci broj poslatih mailova u odredjenom vremenskom periodu (na sat, ili na dan).
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900 mailova
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Koliko vidim, greske su uglavnom vezane za nepostojece korisnike, tj nepostojece email adrese, dok vidim i hotmail response koji je vezan za pokusaj slanja veceg broja emailova na @hotmail domen, u kratkom periodu.
Emailovi nisu double opt-out, tj. postoji li verifikacija email adresa? |
Nema verifikacije mailova posle registracije. Čim se registruju mogu odmah da kupuju, hteli smo da izbegnemo što više sitnica kako bi smanjili opadanje volje kupca pri kupovini. Dakle ne mora da proverava svoj inbox radi verifikacije kao kod foruma, mail mu služi samo radi pass i usera.
Sutra ujutro će da stigne još jedan mail delivery sa 30ak verat sezam neobee adresa, pa šaljem i to. Savet je da podelim 100 po 100 .... ? |
^ Losa ti je to ideja, imas veliki broj nepostojecih adresa, pa nema ni svrhe da im saljes mailove.
Usput neko zlonameran moze da unese tudje email adrese, a put do blacklistovanja je onda vrlo kratak. Moraces da preradis ceo sistem. |
Ok, dakle verifikacija pri prijavljivanju na mail listu (to ćemo uraditi), i posle da podelim slanje mailova po segmentima ?
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Trebalo bi da pomogne, ako ti server nije blacklistovan.
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mozes i da namestis skriptu koja ce da gleda maillog, i da trazi mailove koji su se vratili zbog nepostojecih adresa i da onda iskljucuje te ljude iz daljeg slanja... ima gotovih resenja za to, a nije tesko ni da se napise od pocetka, bar za neke najcesce mail servere
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Hvala na brzim odgovorima, sutra ću još da vidim šta će mi se vratiti s domaćih provajdera, ipak kontam da je mail server na black listi> Budućnost... prebacivanje na novi server + verifikacija i trebalo bi da bude ok.
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Povezi lepo sajt sa nekom aplikacijom za masivan mejling (pisali smo vec o newsletter skriptama ovde), one obicno imaju i bounce managament i email validity checking i ostala chuda. Onda kad ti se neko prijavi, prebaci se (automatski?) u newsletter app, a ona ce vec da ga ubije iz liste ako ne valja (ako se mejl odbija po principu "hard bounce").
Ti saljes masivan mejling (dobro, nije masivan ni najmanje, ali nasim ili shared hosting provajderima kanda jeste), tako da ti bas takva aplikacija treba. Tamo onda mozes podesiti i koliko mejlova u minuti/satu da salje (to vidis sa provajderom) i onda samo lepo pustis aplikaciju da se brine o svemu. Nema glava te boli... Spam (ako letis u bulk/spam/junk/whatever foldere) resavas na druge nacine vec.... Ovi tvoji logovi ne ukazuju bas na to. Cak bih rekao (po "content rejected" bounce kodu) da ni ne formiras mejl lepo, mada ne mora da znaci.... Kako ih saljes uopste? Sta koristis? |
The Bat i html verziju maila.
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