Wikileaks - zasto je vazan i moze li opstati?

[ivanhoe]

pustena je nova serija dokumenata o Iraku, bice zanimljivo ispratiti reakciju Pentagona...

[ivanhoe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r9_7AIfRdM - deo dokumentarca baziranog na novim podacima, a ima u descriptionu link za full verziju ... pominju se neke statistike do kojih se doslo na osnovu dokumenata, izmedju ostalog pominje se da je od 2004. samo na kontrolnim punktovima greskom ubijeno preko 600 civila i ranjeno preko 2000, jer po proceni vojnika, nisu na vreme zaustavili vozila...

[3banchi]

Poslednja recenica u klipu govori vise od slike...kompenzacija za nevino ubijene 2.5k $ po zrtvi i 2.5k $ za auto. Zivot = auto.
Razum ne moze da se kupi...za sve ostalo tu je mastercard.
Bljak!

edit:
Obozavam americku slobodu stampe...

[Ivan]

El Pais, Le Monde, Speigel, Guardian & NYT will publish many US embassy cables tonight, even if WikiLeaks goes down

http://twitter.com/wikileaks

[ivanhoe]

poceo je i DDOS na wikileak sajt, bice zanimljivo saznati koja od zemalja "slobodnog sveta" stoji iza toga...

[Ivan]

Da, DDOS traje, a veceras treba da se objave novi telegrami. Zato mi se svidja vest sa twitera

[3banchi]

Pa to ce da pravdaju "iznimno velikim interesovanjem javnosti" za male tajne velikih majstora diplomatije.
A mislim da ce to zaista tako i biti iz ugla prosecnog stanovnika slobodnog sveta...jebes tamo neke divljake i zrtve po pustinjama Iraka i gudurama Afganistana...daj da vidim kako su nas prijateljski busili.

Ha, pocelo je...Guardian sat i po od objave clanka - preko 300 komentara.

[Ivan]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-e...cuments/225319

[degojs]

Haha, biće tu svašta da se vidi izgleda :-)

Koliko čitam na NYT, Saudijska Arabija, UAE i još neke arapske zemlje traže da Ameri bombarduju Iran :-)

..
king of Bahrain, who provides the base for the American Fifth Fleet, telling the Americans that the Iranian nuclear program “must be stopped,” according to another cable. “The danger of letting it go on is greater than the danger of stopping it,” he said.

His plea was shared by many of America’s Arab allies, including the powerful King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, who according to another cable repeatedly implored Washington to “cut off the head of the snake” while there was still time.

Kao i dil da SA daje naftu Kini (umesto Irana), pri čemu sama S. Arabija traži da Kina strogo poštuje sankcije protiv Irana:

The Saudis agreed, and insisted on ironclad commitments from Beijing to join in sanctions against Tehran.

Čak se ide i u savez sa Izraelom a, za domaću javnost za sve bi bili krivi Ameri, naravno:

At the same time, the cables reveal how Iran’s ascent has unified Israel and many longtime Arab adversaries — notably the Saudis — in a common cause.

Publicly, these Arab states held their tongues, for fear of a domestic uproar and the retributions of a powerful neighbor. Privately, they clamored for strong action — by someone else.

UAE:

United Arab Emirates “all agreed with Abizaid that Iran’s new President Ahmadinejad seemed unbalanced, crazy even,” one cable reports.

A few months later, the Emirates’ defense chief, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed of Abu Dhabi, told General Abizaid that the United States needed to take action against Iran “this year or next.”

Svako gleda svoju korist, a još ako bi Ameri ispali krivi za sve, mašala :-)

[Ivan]

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/stati...316.7z.torrent