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01. 06. 2006. | #21 |
Ivan Dilber
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pa koliko saobracaja je moguce privuci na taj nacin? Vlasnik sajta ce kliknuti samo jednom i nikad vise na odredjeni link, a i to je samo jedan covek po sajtu... koliko miliona sajtova treba spamovati da bi to imalo nekog efekta?
cuo sam i ja za to, ali mi zvuci kao totalna glupost..
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02. 06. 2006. | #22 |
Goran Radulović
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ah ti botovi su neumorni care, isto im je 1 sajt ili milion sajtova.
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14. 06. 2006. | #23 |
expert
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To je referral spam, a ako ti statistika nije zasticena passwordom (.htpasswd) i Google je crawluje, eto i linkova.
Imam i ja takve bezveze stvari po logu, i s obzirom da je moje statistika crawlovana, ucinio sam je nedostupnom (.htpasswd) |
19. 06. 2006. | #24 |
Predrag Supurović
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Evo ga jos jedan spamer. Ubi se reklamirajuci wikipedia.org. Stvarno ne kapiram gde je ovde logika ak sama Wikipedia nije narucila ovakvo spamovanje.
Log mi je prepun ovoga, 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:15 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 14494 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:15 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 87495 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:16 -0500] "GET /index.php?sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 15013 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:16 -0500] "GET /index.php?sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 87474 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:17 -0500] "GET /faq.php?sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 14773 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:17 -0500] "GET /faq.php?sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 55635 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:17 -0500] "GET /rules.php HTTP/1.1" 200 14308 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:18 -0500] "GET /rules.php HTTP/1.1" 200 51399 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:18 -0500] "GET /search.php?sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 15015 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:18 -0500] "GET /search.php?sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 26510 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:19 -0500] "GET /memberlist.php?sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb8 0 HTTP/1.1" 200 15221 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:19 -0500] "GET /memberlist.php?sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb8 0 HTTP/1.1" 200 47745 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:19 -0500] "GET /groupcp.php?sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 14600 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:20 -0500] "GET /groupcp.php?sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 20631 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:20 -0500] "GET /profile.php?mode=register&sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e 1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 14320 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:20 -0500] "GET /profile.php?mode=register&sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e 1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 18347 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:21 -0500] "GET /profile.php?mode=editprofile&sid=68b68bb39d8aefd96 87e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 302 5 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:21 -0500] "GET /login.php?redirect=profile.php&mode=editprofile&si d=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 14712 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:21 -0500] "GET /profile.php?mode=editprofile&sid=68b68bb39d8aefd96 87e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 302 5 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:21 -0500] "GET /login.php?redirect=profile.php&mode=editprofile&si d=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 17050 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:21 -0500] "GET /privmsg.php?folder=inbox&sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1 fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 302 5 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:22 -0500] "GET /login.php?redirect=privmsg.php&folder=inbox&sid=68 b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 14315 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:22 -0500] "GET /privmsg.php?folder=inbox&sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1 fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 302 5 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:22 -0500] "GET /login.php?redirect=privmsg.php&folder=inbox&sid=68 b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 17053 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:23 -0500] "GET /login.php?sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 14899 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:23 -0500] "GET /login.php?sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 17015 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:29 -0500] "GET /statistics.php HTTP/1.1" 200 13257 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:29 -0500] "GET /statistics.php HTTP/1.1" 200 51505 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:29 -0500] "GET /profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1638&sid=68b68bb39d 8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 15743 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:30 -0500] "GET /profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1638&sid=68b68bb39d 8aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 30203 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:30 -0500] "GET /viewonline.php?sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb8 0 HTTP/1.1" 200 14567 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:35 -0500] "GET /viewonline.php?sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490edb8 0 HTTP/1.1" 200 21289 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:36 -0500] "GET /index.php?mark=forums&sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3 490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 14398 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:36 -0500] "GET /index.php?mark=forums&sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3 490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 16229 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:36 -0500] "GET /viewtopic.php?p=57299&sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3 490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 15743 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:37 -0500] "GET /viewtopic.php?p=57299&sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3 490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 47261 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:37 -0500] "GET /profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=658&sid=68b68bb39d8 aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 15743 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:37 -0500] "GET /profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=658&sid=68b68bb39d8 aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 30332 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:38 -0500] "GET /viewforum.php?f=47&sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490 edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 14725 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:38 -0500] "GET /viewforum.php?f=47&sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490 edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 28887 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:38 -0500] "GET /viewtopic.php?p=75218&sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3 490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 15743 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:39 -0500] "GET /viewtopic.php?p=75218&sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3 490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 65603 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:39 -0500] "GET /profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=852&sid=68b68bb39d8 aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 15743 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:39 -0500] "GET /profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=852&sid=68b68bb39d8 aefd9687e1fd3490edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 31349 "-" "libwww-perl/5.805" 216.195.50.221 - - [08/Jun/2006:02:30:40 -0500] "GET /viewforum.php?f=33&sid=68b68bb39d8aefd9687e1fd3490 edb80 HTTP/1.1" 200 15093 "http://wikipedia.org" "libwww-perl/5.805"
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19. 06. 2006. | #25 |
Direktor Kombinata
Invented the damn thing
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Ima tu kvaka: spameri često linkuju na sajtove koje je lako spamovati. Dizanjem rejtinga sajta na kome se nalaze spam linkovi takođe se diže rejting i linkovanih stranica.
Mada, ako je samo referal spam u pitanju ne vidim poentu.
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19. 06. 2006. | #26 |
expert
Expert
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pa, ilija, na wikipediji nema spam linkova
moze biti da neko namjerno hoce da "smjesti" wikipediji, ko zna. jedan drugar je bio primoran da seli sajt par puta sa jednog na drugi server jer je host primao zalbe na spam i suspendovao ga, a on niti je narucio niti je slao spam mailove sa linkom. jednostavno, konkurencija ne stedi sredstva
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Invented the damn thing
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Citat:
Btw, nisam mislio samo i isključivo na wikipediju. Samo sam hteo da navedem slučaj kada spameri dižu rejting običnim sajtovima koje naknadno pune spamom te time dižu rejting i linkovanim stranicama. Objasni mi ko će banovati wikipediju zbog spamovanja i na koji način ovo šteti samoj wikipediji? Ona je već sad više opšte dobro nego "još jedan sajt".
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19. 06. 2006. | #28 |
expert
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Ilija, to sa wikipediom je mozda Googlebowling, tehnika da se konkurentski sajt linkuje sa "bad neighbourhood", link spam, da se sajlu prekomerni upiti pretrazivacu i sve ostalo sto je protivno webmaster guidelines kod pretrazivaca, da bi se ugrozio rejting. Ne mislis valjda da u Google-u samo rucno banuju za takve stvari? E tako, opet ja nagadjam, neko zeli da Wikipediu obori na nize mesto za neki search termin, drugo mi uopste ne pada na pamet.
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Citat:
slicno kao spamcop - recimo, banuju komplet datacentar i banovan je dok ne prodje odredjeni period bez zalbi na IP iz tog opsega, a ti kukaj i vici koliko hoces da je to jedan korisnik zloupotrijebio tvoje usluge i da si ga sankcionisao.
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19. 06. 2006. | #30 |
expert
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Ne znam, da je kao sto kazes, svi hostinzi bi bili banovani (otvoris shared hosting nalog i udaras kverije Google-u da napakostis konkurentu). Sigurno prvo stupaju u kontakt sa datacentrom, tj. vlasnikom IP.
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