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05. 08. 2007. | #1 |
expert
Grand Master
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mail ide u spam folder google-a
na dedicated serveru koji sredjujem (dakle 99% da sam ja nesto propustio) se desava sledece:
saljem mail sa test@meetyouhere.com na moj gmail account i on ode u spam. IP nije blacklisted, imam spf rekord headeri: Kôd:
From: - Sun Aug 05 19:38:27 2007 X-Account-Key: account8 X-UIDL: GmailId11436e0d2baf4ad8 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00400000 Delivered-To: robert ivanov majmunche gmail com Received: by 10.114.199.10 with SMTP id w10cs726063waf; Sun, 5 Aug 2007 09:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.17.1 with SMTP id 1mr8430588wxq.1186331677386; Sun, 05 Aug 2007 09:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <test@meetyouhere.com> Received: from um-941.conepuppy.com (um-941.conepuppy.com [69.61.99.154]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 39si4490263wrl.2007.08.05.09.34.36; Sun, 05 Aug 2007 09:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of test@meetyouhere.com designates 69.61.99.154 as permitted sender) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by um-941.conepuppy.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B210D258361; Sun, 5 Aug 2007 09:39:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at um-941.conepuppy.com Received: from um-941.conepuppy.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (um-941.conepuppy.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vagxEm1jctS9; Sun, 5 Aug 2007 09:39:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 69.61.99.154 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by um-941.conepuppy.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3763325832F; Sun, 5 Aug 2007 09:39:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 82.199.203.114 (SquirrelMail authenticated user test@meetyouhere.com) by 69.61.99.154 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Aug 2007 09:39:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7660.82.199.203.114.1186321184.squirrel@69.61.99.154> Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 09:39:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: test From: test@meetyouhere.com To: moj mail @ gmail User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Confirm-Reading-To: test@meetyouhere.com Disposition-Notification-To: test@meetyouhere.com X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Return-Receipt-To: test@meetyouhere.com ima li neko ideju gde je problem? za dati IP mail servera reverse DNS daje drugi domain, ali to ne bi trebalo biti problem jer je isti upisan kao MX IP domejna je 69.61.99.157, IP mail servera je 69.61.99.154 u mx zapisu stoji sledece: Kôd:
MX 10 um-941.conepuppy.com. koristim upravo taj (pod)domen jer mi je za njega setovan rDNS predlozi, ideje? P.S. http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsrep...eetyouhere.com kaze da je sve ok sa MX-om |
05. 08. 2007. | #2 |
Predrag Supurović
Grand Master
Datum učlanjenja: 24.01.2006
Lokacija: Užice
Poruke: 791
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Imam slican problem, isto moj email zavrsava u spam box-u na Google mail. Probao sam da pitam admine na Google kako bar da saznam sta je razlog da email bude oznacen kao spam, ali mi nikad anisu odgovorili.
Tako imamo situaciju na Google mail sam odrjuje sta je spam bez nase mogucnosti da na to utricemo osim da ubacimo problematicnu adresu u whiltelist. Meni kao adminu domena je vrlo bitno da sistemski resim problem i obebedim da goole ne oznacava emailove koji nisu spam kao spam.
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05. 08. 2007. | #3 |
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Wrote a book
Datum učlanjenja: 16.06.2005
Lokacija: Novi Sad
Poruke: 1.437
Hvala: 37
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Robi-bobi, da sam na tvom mestu, probao bih prvo da fixam taj jedan warn i fail sto dobijam na toj dns stuff strani (vezano za postmaster i abuse), pa tek onda razmotrio ostale opcije.
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05. 08. 2007. | #4 |
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Datum učlanjenja: 02.10.2006
Lokacija: Niš
Poruke: 1.618
Hvala: 263
275 "Hvala" u 104 poruka
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isti problem... bez resenja.
markiras kao 'not a spam' za svaki account |
05. 08. 2007. | #5 |
expert
Grand Master
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ma ne bi trebalo da je do toga
evo stavio sam ih, opet isto .. |
06. 08. 2007. | #6 |
Ivan Dilber
Sir Write-a-Lot
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gmail ima prilicno agresivnu heuristiku za hvatanja spama, prakticno svaka kratka poruka sa vise od jednog linka mi uvek zavrsi oznacena kao spam. Sa istih adresa mi ljudi posalju duze mailove bez linkova i oni prodju normalno.
tako da je isto bitno i koji je sadrzaj maila, treba izbegavati neke klasicne spam reci tipa free i slicno...
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06. 08. 2007. | #7 |
expert
Grand Master
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hm!
naaaajzad nadjoh jos jedan mail server koji mi takodje vraca pisma evo sta on kaze: Kôd:
host neki host said: 550 No Such User Here (in reply to RCPT TO command) ja mogu da pristupim smpt-u preko telneta i VRFY, kao i RCPT TO mi vracaju OK ..... edit: ^ sto se tice gmaila propust nekog spam maila u inbox mogu da prezivim. cak sam u poslednje vreme PREZATRPAN spamom na gmailu. Dnevno oko 50-tak poruka prodje (mogu i screenshot da okacim ) to jos mogu i da progutam. al kad mi pismo od klijenta zavrsi u spamu - to me vec uzasno nervira - a nije da se nije desavalo Poslednja izmena od robi-bobi : 06. 08. 2007. u 11:53. |
06. 08. 2007. | #8 |
Igor Marinović
Expert
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Dosta vrlo zaposlenih servera za svaki VRFY kaze da korisnik postoji, a tek kasnije kada procesira pristiglu postu odredjuje da li korisnik stvarno postoji ili ne.
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06. 08. 2007. | #9 |
expert
Grand Master
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ne znam sta si hteo da kazes, ali ja sam samo napisao da i VRFY i RCPT TO rade onako kako bi trebali da rade, t.j. kazu: da, korisnik je tu. a ja sam u onom bounce-u dobio da moj mail kaze da nema takvog korisnika
(edit: shvatih sta si hteo reci, evo stavljam ceo bounce. koliko ja vidim, taj mail server proverava na mom mail serveru da li postoji takav mail user kao sto je from: polje. ja sam proverio i vidim da moj mail server kaze da ima takvog usera) ajd nek neko pismen uradi Kôd:
telnet um-941.conepuppy.com 25 btw, jel ima neko instaliran spamasasin il neki drugi spam killer koji kad vrati poruku pise i zasto je TACNO vracena, da mu posaljem poruku edit: evo celog bounce-a: Kôd:
This is the mail system at host um-941.conepuppy.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system <pravimail@drugidomen.com>: host drugidomen.com[63.247.89.29] said: 550-Verification failed for <test@meetyouhere.com> 550-No Such User Here 550 Sender verify failed (in reply to RCPT TO command) Poslednja izmena od robi-bobi : 06. 08. 2007. u 12:16. |
06. 08. 2007. | #10 |
Igor Marinović
Expert
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Hehe, iz ovoga proizilazi da ja nisam pismen?
Evo da pojasnim. Pokusajte: Kôd:
telnet fmx.freemail.hu 25 Kôd:
Trying 195.228.245.2... Connected to fmx.freemail.hu. Escape character is '^]'. 220 freemail.hu ESMTP VRFY devprotalkovoononestodrugo@freemail.hu 252 send some mail, i'll try my best
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