Alternativa mail serveru

[chux]

Hostovani smo kod loklanog provajdera i web hosting je ok za sada bez problema. Međutim problem je kod slanja mailova. Kada se izvrši narudžba (potvrda o porudžbini) sigurno 60 - 70% ljudi ne dobije mailove o ostvarenoj kupovini, kao i kada se šalje mass mail o novim proizvodima na sajtu, mnogo mailova sa sezama, yahoo-a, neobeeja, verata se vrate.

Pitanje glasi da li ima neka alternativa za smtp server ili moramo da radimo premeštanje hostinga na drugog provajdera?

[BrainDamage]

Pa, iz kog razloga se vracaju ti mailovi, sta "kaze" mailer-daemon?

Je l' se "gube" mailovi sa informacijama o kupovini, ili zavrsavaju u spam/junk?

[misk0]

Alternativa postoji uvijek, mozes da iznajmis negdje samo mail server i sa odredjenom autorizacijom koristis njega za slanje. Probaj prvo ustanoviti sta je problem i pokusati ga rijesiti sa aktuelnim provajderom pa onda trazi dalje rjesenje.

[filmil]

Ако мање спамујеш, мање ће да те стављају на црне листе.

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[chux]

Sad sam poslao novo obaveštenje korisnicima, pa ću da kopiram šta mi kaže mail delivery kada se vrati.

@filmil Ne spamujem, samo šaljem mailove ljudima koju su se prijavili na to.



Evo ga:

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:


Connection timed out:
retry timeout exceeded

SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data:
host gi.bitsyu.net [217.24.17.19]: 550 5.7.1 Message content rejected

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<pstevan@myway.com>:
host www168.myway.com [207.159.120.168]: 554 5.7.1 <vizioshop@gmail.com>:
Sender address rejected: Access denied

SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM:<vizioshop@gmail.com>:
host smtp.infosky.net [195.250.98.4]: 553 5.3.0 Mail from mail.panonnet.net refused, forged/mis-configured/bad-DNS/dialups/non-relayed - please read http://www.infosky.net/en/dul.html

SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL FROM:<vizioshop@gmail.com>:
host smtp.infosky.net [195.250.98.4]: 553 5.3.0 Mail from mail.panonnet.net refused, forged/mis-configured/bad-DNS/dialups/non-relayed - please read http://www.infosky.net/en/dul.html

SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data:
host mail.tehnicom.com [62.193.140.8]: 550 SPAM This message scored 5.5 SPAM points. Congratulations!

SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data:
host mail.indus3.org [80.74.160.83]: 554 mail server permanently rejected message (#5.3.0)

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>:
host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [66.249.91.27]:
550 5.1.1 No such user y34si2443278iky

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>:
host server07.citromail.hu [195.70.38.233]: 511 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 )

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>:
host mail.domainmanager.com [64.40.108.141]: 550 No such mailbox known

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>:
host it1.ptt.yu [212.62.32.7]: 550 5.7.1 <>... server [212.62.32.192] for <> rejected address saying:
550 5.1.1 <>... User unknown

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

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host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

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host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

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host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

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host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@msn.com>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 552 Too many recipients

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 550 Requested action not taken:
mailbox unavailable

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 550 Requested action not taken:
mailbox unavailable

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 550 Requested action not taken:
mailbox unavailable

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@hotmail.com>:
host mx3.hotmail.com [65.54.244.200]: 550 Requested action not taken:
mailbox unavailable

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@sezampro.yu>:
host mail1.sezampro.yu [77.105.0.23]: 550 <lizarazu> User account expired

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@neobee.net>:
host mx1.neobee.net [80.74.160.47]: 550 This account has expired.

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@neobee.net>:
host mx1.neobee.net [80.74.160.47]: 550 NEOBEE.NET UNKNOWN USER

SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<@gmai.com>:
host mail.gmai.com [66.166.249.155]: 550 <acikagosu@gmai.com>, Recipient unknown

Unrouteable address

Unrouteable address

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an SRV record indicated no SMTP service

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[MorenoArdohain]

Nisi rekao koliki je broj subscribera. Vecina shared web hostinga limitira moguci broj poslatih mailova u odredjenom vremenskom periodu (na sat, ili na dan).

[chux]

900 mailova

[MorenoArdohain]

Koliko vidim, greske su uglavnom vezane za nepostojece korisnike, tj nepostojece email adrese, dok vidim i hotmail response koji je vezan za pokusaj slanja veceg broja emailova na @hotmail domen, u kratkom periodu.

Emailovi nisu double opt-out, tj. postoji li verifikacija email adresa?

[chux]

Nema verifikacije mailova posle registracije. Čim se registruju mogu odmah da kupuju, hteli smo da izbegnemo što više sitnica kako bi smanjili opadanje volje kupca pri kupovini. Dakle ne mora da proverava svoj inbox radi verifikacije kao kod foruma, mail mu služi samo radi pass i usera.

Sutra ujutro će da stigne još jedan mail delivery sa 30ak verat sezam neobee adresa, pa šaljem i to.

Savet je da podelim 100 po 100 .... ?

[MorenoArdohain]

^ Losa ti je to ideja, imas veliki broj nepostojecih adresa, pa nema ni svrhe da im saljes mailove.
Usput neko zlonameran moze da unese tudje email adrese, a put do blacklistovanja je onda vrlo kratak.

Moraces da preradis ceo sistem.